Public Domain Catholic Bibles
Thu, 07/30/2009 - 3:34pm
I had installed the Drupal module "bible" which has some great features and included a "public domain" Catholic version based on he Duay-Rheims. I had to remove it, the translation was so bad it is not even funny. I still have it enabled, just not linked.
www.catholictuner.com/bible, the developer is in Taiwan here http://drupalbible.mikelee.idv.tw/
Does anyone know how to get ahold of the actual text for the Duay-Rheims that is supposedly not restricted by copyrights and add it to this module?
John
Fri, 07/31/2009 - 9:19am
#2
Catholic Reference Extension (plugin)
Pistos, at Catholicism Computes, created the Catholic Reference Extension (plugin) for WordPress. It includes the Catechism and several translations of the Catholic Bible. The example no longer works in the above link, because StBlog users were complaining, because they didn't know how to turn it off (which you could turn it off). But, if you are running WrodPress on your own server, do check it out.
It would be nice to have something like this for Drupal.
Fri, 07/31/2009 - 9:50am
#3
This is good, if anything at
This is good, if anything at least if has the text!
I did some probing around on how th eDrupal Bible module works and the text is actually stored in the db, I believe this may actually be a good thing. One table was created for the list of books, I was able to export the list as CSV file, edit the book order correctly and replace the data in the table, now the order of books is correct and in the correct Testament.
See the differences
http://www.catholictuner.com/bible/1
http://drupalbible.mikelee.idv.tw/?q=bible/12
I also edited John1:1 on the CatholicTuner text because it was so bad, also see the difference for yourself.
John
Fri, 07/31/2009 - 12:26pm
#4
transparent gif
Hi John,
Like your website. I noticed you've got a bit of an outline around the Crucifix. This happens alot with transparent gif's.
Here's a quick tute on how to fix those http://www.mediacollege.com/adobe/photoshop/transparent/matte.html
In the past when I've run into this problem, I've either added a matte or inserted the graphic into another graphic object like a circle/square, then you don't have to be as concerned about transparency.
Best wishes,
Craig
Fri, 07/31/2009 - 12:36pm
#5
Hi Craig, funny you should
Hi Craig, funny you should bring this up, it drove me nuts trying to figure this exact thing out, so I just decided to leave it and go onto something else and figured I would just fix it another time. Now, the "rustic" look is growing on me :-)
This is what I get for being semi- OCD!
I am going to see if GIMP can do this, it's what I use..
Fri, 07/31/2009 - 12:37pm
#6
By the way Craig, hone your
By the way Craig, hone your Drupal pencil, I am going to need help on that site!
John
Fri, 07/31/2009 - 8:22pm
#7
Craig, I can't seem figure
Craig, I can't seem figure out how to do it in Gimp, any chance I could get you to do that for me ?
John
Fri, 07/31/2009 - 9:48pm
#8
I just touched up the edges a
I just touched up the edges a bit in Photoshop - check out www.catholictuner.com for the results... didn't do any special matting on it, though.
Sat, 08/01/2009 - 7:27am
#10
Duay-Rheims bible
I have begun work on creating a .bc.txt file for Drupal Bible using the Douay-Rheims translation.
Hopefully I can get MikeLee to host it on his website. This way, anyone who installs Drupal Bible will be able to install it directly without having to download anything.
We will then have a good Catholic Bible to put on our sites.
should have it down in a week or two.....
Wed, 08/05/2009 - 11:34am
#12
How do I get my Blog or Podcast listed?
John,
I'm looking forward to the new Drupal Bible that we can add to our own sites! I'll soon be working on a couple KofC websites in the coming months and it would be prefect to have this feature added to them!
Thanks : )
Wed, 08/05/2009 - 10:19pm
#14
Need advise on the Bible
Need advise on the Bible names...I was able to finish the Douay-Rheims. When I labled the books, I thought it would be a good idea to put the old english names in parenthesis as refrence, but I think it looks too busy, what do you guys think?
Thu, 08/06/2009 - 2:07pm
#16
Well, I have made a decision
Well, I have made a decision on the issue of the Books. Since, there is no "public" version of the RSVCE or NAB that can be freely distributed and these are the only two books Authorized for use in the US it makes since to use the DRC in place of it. And since the NAB is the official Bible of the US, I decided to keep the order of books and naming convention the same as the NAB. http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/
One BIG advantage of using this module is that all 73 books can be included, most apps and or web sources do not include the 73 books because it was designed for just 66. This bypasses that limitation.
I will create a page on catholicTuner to house the Bible text and I am going to see if MikeLee will host it on his server as well. So start installing the module!
Note, besure that your php.ini file has the max upload size set to atleast 5MB to upload Bible text or 7MB if you plan on uploading the Strong's Numbers file as well. Besure to add the two extentions bc and sn to your Administer » Site configuration » File uploads
John
Thu, 08/06/2009 - 2:16pm
#17
Awesome! Is there a d.o
Awesome! Is there a d.o project for this module?
Thu, 08/06/2009 - 3:13pm
#19
Ah sorry... my Drupalese
Ah sorry... my Drupalese coming out - d.o == drupal.org
Sat, 08/08/2009 - 7:26am
#22
I like the BLS filter option.
I like the BLS filter option. Anyone posting anything on the site can just type the verse in brakets "[ ]" and the verse instantly pops up. Great for Blogs etc.
See it work here http://www.catholictuner.com/about
Tue, 08/11/2009 - 9:49am
#23
Drupal Bible module now has
Drupal Bible module now has the DRC (Douay-Rheims Version) of the Bible available for direct web import.
Fri, 10/28/2011 - 3:01pm
#25
Just sent a message to the
Just sent a message to the copyright protectors at the USCCB office...
To Whom It May Concern,
I have been working for various Catholic organizations over the past ten years, and have often been asked about the possibility of integrating the NAB or English translation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church with apps, websites, and other software.
Every time I get a request for this functionality (including for Archdiocesan organizations and Catholic parishes), I explain that the entity will need to pay for licensing rights and follow a strict set of guidelines for getting the texts they need.
Unfortunately, this discourages people from using the NAB, and they opt instead for a Vulgate translation or some other bible that is free of restrictions (and may not even be Catholic!).
I am imploring you to consider the possibility of at least offering some sort of API with no restrictions where an app or website could pull down a verse, chapter, or book for display.
The USCCB website doesn't cut it… and every time a creative developer finds a better way to display the sacred texts of our faith in an app or online by scraping the content from the USCCB's website, they are quickly rebuked by the USCCB's copyright office.
Do you have any plans for making the Bible more accessible to Catholics in this digital age?
In Christ,
Jeff Geerling
P.S. Even a good low-priced NAB app for iPhone, iPad, and Android would be better than nothing; then I could recommend a Catholic bible to my friends instead of an older or Protestant translation. There are many Catholic developers I know who would jump at the idea of helping the USCCB bring the NAB to the masses on the 'Digital Continent...'
Mon, 11/28/2011 - 5:28pm
#26
Any response to your letter
Any response to your letter yet, just curious?
Mon, 12/05/2011 - 8:38pm
#27
I received the following
I received the following response a few days later:
I appreciate your concern regarding the accessibility of the NABRE. The NABRE is currently available as an ebook on both Kindle and Nook operating systems, iPad, and inexpensive electronic versions for the computer are in development at present. (A more expensive academic software package is already available.). The NABRE is also freely available on the USCCB webpage: http://www.usccb.org/bible/books-of-the-bible/.
In addition, we are working with a licensee on a site which allows emailing brief excerpts. The programming will begin before the end of the year.
The primary reason for the delay was the wait for the publication of the NABRE in March 2011. Prior to that time, the database for the text was limited in its ability to be used for a variety of purposes.
Please do not hesitate to contact me if I can be of further assistance in this or any other matter.
Sincerely,
D----- --------
I responded:
My specific concern, though, is that there's no way for those who are developing other Catholic apps or websites to be able to integrate the Catholic bible (NABRE or regular NAB, or other copyrighted versions) without paying excessive licensing fees.
Does the USCCB have any plans on giving people the ability to retrieve particular verses or books in a more open format, like JSON, XML, etc., for free, provided that the app would note the copyright and give a link or at least attributions?
I really think the NABRE and other bible editions published by the USCCB are shooting themselves in the foot by not being accessible to a wider audience.
Final response:
We are currently working on something similar to be available for use.
Thank you for your concern.
Wed, 12/21/2011 - 2:30pm
#28
More discussion over
More discussion over here: http://www.opensourcecatholic.com/blog/jeff-geerling/open-access-catholic
Does anyone actually have a text source online? If so, we could probably adapt it into the module, at least...
Advancing the faith.